Jun 21, 2015 it will eventually learn it on its own, but it may take over a week of driving, during which time you will experience high and low idle speeds and possibly rough idle. If i allow it to idle at a higher rpm by holding the gas in a bit, it seems to get better after a few minutes, but its still a bit low 600700 rpm idle i plan on soldering the leads to make sure its a very strong connection, but it looks good everything else works on battery power too. Pontiac torrent throttle body throttle bodies replacement. Press and hold the lock and unlock button on your keyless entry remote for 5 seconds, until the horn chirps twice. Me neither until i read the procedure to replace the air filter. It takes about 2 days for the service engine soon light to come on, but inevitably it always does and gives me a p0507 idle control system idle higher than expected warning. For the model year 2007, gm has 66 named vehicles, not including isuzu, saab, and suzuki im ports. Jan 18, 2016 the idle is going to be high at first until the computer relearns the idle again. Idle relearn because your vehicles engine is electronically controlled by a computer, some control conditions are maintained by power from the battery. When to perform idle air volume learning z after replace iacvaac valve, throttle valve body or ecm z while idle speed or ignition timing is out of the specifications prerequisites confirm the vehicle as follows before performing learning.
On a trip north some time back, she began experiencing problems and was getting reduced power and stabilitrak off messages. A rough idle or a ses can sometimes be caused by a change in the throttle body position sensor calibration. Before performing idle air volume learning, make sure that all of the following conditions are satisfied. Anyone ever change a throttle body on an 07 suburban posted by downshiftandfloorit on 11 at 1. Feb 19, 2010 truck idle high after throttle cleaning code p0121 unread post by roy wed apr 03, 20 1. The ecm uses nonvolatile memory to keep track of the iac position when the engine and ecm are turned off. Warmup vehicle to normal operating temperature or until. Shut the car off, and begin the throttle position idle relearn procedures as listed in the service manualother places online. Procedures for idle speed relearn for 2007 pontiac. Allow vehicle to idle for one minute in n position. After the 3 minute run time the engine should be idling normal. Gm truck electronic throttle body etb relearn procedure. After cleaning the throttle body on a gm vehicle, you may need to perform a throttle idle relearn. Pontiac cars and trucks have a tendency to break in certain ways.
Nissan electronic throttle body idle and volume relearn procedure. In some cases, when the battery is disconnectedremoved, the vehicle will need an idle relearn procedure. Performing a throttle relearn on gm throttlebywire vehicles can easily be done with the mac tools mentor touch scout, no. Starting with lf tire, increasedecrease tire pressure until horn sounds. Passlock iii reset procedure, reset security system on chevy. Anytime the ecm or the throttle body is replaced, the ecm must learn the idle position. The removal of electrical power from the engine erases idle memory from the pcm, the computer where it is stored. What is the idle relearn procedure for a pontiac torrent. Truck idle high after throttle cleaning code p0121 chevy. If idle speed codes are set, clear codes so the ecm can continue to learn.
Is the free instructions explaining the idle speed relearn for a 2007 pontiac torrent. Its tough to detect a pattern, but in drive it runs around 11001200 rpm without touching the gas. Idle air volume learning description idle air volume learning is an operation to learn the idle air volume that keeps each engine within the specific range. Problemsservicemaintenance high idle after cleaning throttle body fix solutionanswers so let me begin by. How to do ecmpcm idle learn procedure showing how to do the idle learn procedure if you have any questions feel free to ask. The same thing happened a couple of years ago when her battery died and we had to boost it. How to resetrelearn tpms wnew sensors the how to forum. In neutral it idles at 1700 rpms regardless of engine temp. Press and hold unlock and lock buttons on the keyless entry transmitter until horn sounds, and then lf turn signal will become illuminated. Typically after disconnecting the battery, the computer will need to relearn the parameters and the idle will be very low for a couple days or couple hundred miles. Jul 16, 2014 after cleaning the throttle body on a gm vehicle, you may need to perform a throttle idle relearn.
I just replaced the throttle body on my 2003 suburan 5. Pontiac torrent throttle body 2007 2006 2009 2008 07 06 09 08. Anyone ever change a throttle body on an 07 suburban. Each car has a unique iac value that takes into account the condition of the sensors, air and vacuum passages, etc. How do i relearn a throttle body in a 2006 chevy impala 2006 chevrolet impala what would i need to do this. The info does not state that a procedure is not needed, it is silent on the subject. Vehicle drivability computer relearn procedure is now complete. I have an 07 that did the same thing but only after setting at idle for about 15 20 minutes at the bank. Jun 24, 2015 what is the idle relearn procedure for a pontiac torrent with the 3. Jul 24, 2012 passlock iii reset procedure, reset security system on chevy, buick, oldsmobile, cadillac, pontiac, saturn, hummer. If your g6 does not have keyless entry, you can still reset the system yourself. Quickly press the accelerator pedal to the floor and then release three times. They did an idle air relearn 3 times now and itll run fine at 750 rpms until its run a bit then its right back up to 1100 rpms. Throttle body cleaning and idle relearn procedure pontiac.
If you replace the air cleaner element, reset the pcm with the hds, and do the pcm idle learn procedure see page. I was performing some maintenance and after i was finished, my idle was not correct. Cleaning the throttle body allowed more air to enter the engine, and the computer is compensating by adding more fuel. If youve performed a major repair, disconnected the battery, or disconnected a maf sensor while the engine is running, you may have to perform a nissan idle relearn procedure also called an idle air volume relearn procedure. The idle will relearn if you put the vehicle in drive and allow the idle to come down with all accessories off for about two to three minutes. Modern vehicles, such as those manufactured by chevy, work in unison with computer modules within the engine compartment. Vehicles equipped with engine and transmission computers may require a relearn procedure after the vehicle battery has been disconnected. In the event you are experiencing an erratic idle after loading a tune or after performing any action that clears kam keep alive memory, an idle relearn can. Idle air relearn procedure manual outta curiosity, after a few startingstop cycles under normal driving, doesnt the cars relearn after installing cais or other stuffs i installed a custom cai, and car idles the same 750 rpm, no fluctuations on needle, and this is with midrange gas, etc. If you do not do this, you may have hesitation or other issues. But if i let it sit for another 3 sec it drops to 750rpm and idles perfectly.
Weird, very weird with low idle toyota tundra forums. I want do my part in letting it adjust itself before i ask my tuner to bump it up some more or what ever magic you do inside those pcms. Idle relearn throttle body cleaning chevy tahoe forum. Learning will be cancelled if any of the following conditions are missed for even a moment. In this video, well be going through the required relearn instructions for. Start the engine and allow to idle for 2 12 minutes, while the ac and rear defroster are on. The engine control module ecm learns the idle position of the throttle plate to ensure the cor rect idle. Even the procedure for throttle body replacement does not mention a relearn procedure. Going to change throttle body unit in my 2006 pontiac g6 3.
Poor idle after a gm throttle body replacement install. Procedure 4 throttle idle learn description the engine control module ecm learns the idle position of the throttle plate to ensure the correct idle. Performing a throttle relearn on gm throttlebywire vehicles. An idle relearn procedure is a way to reprogram the vehicles computer memory to idle at a specified rpm, or revolutions per minute. Nissan idle relearn procedure ricks free auto repair advice. Throttle body replacement and reprogramming gmc acadia forum. Place the top of the triggering tool against the drivers side front tires sidewall aimed at the valve stem location. With the ignition on and the engine off, perform the idle learn reset in mode setup, using the scan tool. Jump to latest follow status not open for further replies. The kam or keep alive memory is the memory that is stored in the powertrain control module pcm. Gm throttle body relearn procedure ricks free auto. Actual learning will take time, ive heard as few as 5 starts and as many as 30. Idle relearn procedure i think civics and accords are probably similar enough that the idle ecu reset procedure is about the same. It must be performed under any of the following conditions.
Seemed to help a little but the idle still drops slower than normal, drops to 1100rpm, up to 1200rpm, back down to 1100, then slowly settles at 850ish. The engine idle may be unstable or a dtc may set if the idle position is not learned. What is the idle relearn procedure for a pontiac torrent with. If youre pressed for time, disconnect both terminals and hold them together for a few seconds, to discharge the capacitors on the ecu should be enough to reset the computer and begin relearn. Make sure the battery if fully charged because this procedure may take up to 30 minutes and you cannot start the vehicle during this time. Under most circumstances, it will relearn after just driving the car for a while, but if your car continues to experience an abnormal idle, or you just dont want to wait for it to relearn on its own, you.
I did the relearn procedure i read about for gm vehicles where you let it idle in park. The idle relearn or reset procedure is very important, otherwise this code may still remain even after a throttle body clean. Saturn vehicle drivability computer relearn procedure. Place gearshift in d3 while coasting at 30 mph, slowly accelerate at 12 throttle to achieve a 32 downshift. Here are some of the causes of surges, stalls at stops, slow idle speed, erratic idle.
Then start the engine and allow the ecm time to begin to learn. Does a car have to relearn idle when a battery is disconnected. Throttle relearn procedurenew batterywont idle or run. I just changed the timing belt and a whole lot of other things, but the only thing i can see relevant to the idle itself is that i cleaned the throttle body out.
Using the gm diagnostic scan tool, or equivalent, refer to the onscreen reprogramming directions and perform the throttleidle learn procedure. When we put it in gear the car will start pulling harder and harder until it starts moving unless you are applying extreme brake pressure. So i cleaned out the throttle body on my 2006 pontiac torrent awd but im not. Performing a throttle relearn on gm throttlebywire vehicles can be done with your scan tool. Conditions for running the throttle learn procedure. Throttleidle learn procedure repair guide autozone. We show you how to perform the pcm relearn procedure so your vehicle runs normally. The idle learn procedure when youre having problems, the first thing worth trying is the idle lean procedure. If you perform maintenance on your dodge vehicle, your vehicles computer must find out what has happened. If anyone has read different ecu idle reset procedures for accords, id be interested to know what they are.
Each time electric throttle control actuator or ecm is replaced. Follow these procedures exactly or you will have to start from scratch. There is a small throttle relearn procedure that should be done so the pcm and tb can. High idle after throttle body cleaning throttles engine i. Give it some time or go on a long highway drive, and you should be fine. Pontiac torrent stabilitrak and traction control lights car. Most cars have a computer to help keep their systems running properly. It guy, so im technical and can figure some stuff out. Preconditioning before performing idle air volume learning, make sure that all of the following conditions are satisfied. Resetting the throttle body calibration this step is. We stock throttle body parts for most pontiac models including grand prix, g6, gto, montana, g5, g8, firebird, solstice, vibe and wave.
By collecting data from actual owners and combining it with information from nhtsa, we can tell you which cars to avoid and what problems happen most. Every time we disconnected the computer it had to relearn how to idle and in a few minutes it was ready to be driven. For example, to perform a throttle relearn on a 2008 silverado 5. Low idlestall after battery unplug scion tc forums. In some cases it may be necessary to drive the vehicle before. This part is also sometimes called pontiac torrent throttle bodies. When the battery is disconnected, a new battery installed or a tune is loaded, the engine must relearn its idle and fuel trim strategy for optimum driveability and performance. Last week i got a new battery for my wifes 2000 civic with auto trans, and ever since then the idle has been very low. The horn should sound letting you know that the vehicle has entered into tpms relearn mode. After installing new throttle body, we cannot get idle relearn to work properly. Jun 11, 2007 after my tune, i drove it on the highway not on the streets so it still does not want to idle in r or d, well it still stalls, not as bad as before the tune, but it is still stalling.
Idle speed or ignition timing is out of specification. Experience has taught that when service info does not mention a. Apr 02, 2015 1 start and idle the engine in park for 3 mins 0. Overheating it is a 2006 pontiac torrent that continues to overheat it runs hot when youre sitting idle when you step on the gas it starts to.
Unperformed idle learn procedure may cause stalling issue. A stalling issue may occur if the battery goes dead or is disconnected and the idle learn procedure is not performed. Throttle body cleaning and idle relearn procedure pontiac g6 forum. There was a tag on the new tb saying that idle speed relearn. The motors would barely run, then idle up, then barely run, then idle up, each time getting closer and closer together until the motor purred. After installing new tpms sensors in a vehicle, a set of tpms relearn procedures must be followed in order for the sensors successfully communicate with the vehicles ecu. You will need to have the battery disconnected and wait 10 minutes and then relearn throttle idle. Please contact your wheel manufacturer to confirm fitment.
Dec 07, 2011 going to change throttle body unit in my 2006 pontiac g6 3. We use cookies to give you the best possible experience on our website. With the key on, engine off, it did the relearn in less than 30 seconds it was done. In the event you are experiencing an erratic idle after loading a tune or after performing any action that clears kam keep alive memory, an idle relearn can help you get back on track. During that period the idle may be higher idle than normal. Toyota does not mention a specific procedure for an idle relearn in their official service information. An idle relearn procedure must be performed if a computer, or chip, is replaced in the vehicle. During the drive cycle the check engine light may come on with idle speed dtcs. Turn the ac on and allow the engine to idle for at least one minute. What is the idle relearn procedure for a pontiac torrent with the 3. If the radiator fan comes on, do not include its running time in the 5 minutes. This page basically shows you step by step how to do an idle relearn. I remember it took a very long time for the idle to return to normal many w.
The vehicle may need to be driven for 10 miles 16 km or more to relearn the idle and fuel trim strategy. Idle air volume learning is an operation to learn the idle air volume that keeps each engine within the specific range. Remanufactured throttle body relearn procedure may need to be. Performing a throttle relearn on gm throttlebywire. Cleaned throttle body now the rpms are too high 07. If you disconnect the cables leading to your vehicles battery, the computers source of power, and leave them disconnected for at least half an hour, you have essentially turned off your vehicles computer and forced it to reboot. If it does not idle correctly after this procedure, you will need to clean the throttle body. Flashman ecm throttle body cleaning and idle relearn. Drive the vehicle to complete the relearning process. The usual cause is an excessive carbon buildup on the throttle body. C6 drive cycle relearn procedure team zr1 corvette racers. The vehicle was shaking pretty badly, having trouble shifting from 4th to 5th gear at highway speeds 5060 mph, and the traction control system would randomly shut off accompanied by the dashboard light. Anytime the throttle body is cleaned or replaced, the ecm must learn the new throttle position.
It will eventually learn it on its own, but it may take over a week of driving, during which time you will experience high and low idle speeds and possibly rough idle. I brought my equinox into the shop a couple of weeks ago for a couple of issues. You would want to do this if you have done any intake modifications. Hello, after driving a buick for a while, i decided to go back to a caddy. How do i relearn a throttle body in a 2006 chevy impala. The ecm will start to learn the new idle cells and desired rpm should start to decrease. High idle after cleaning throttle body fixsolutionanswers cobalt.
Cleaned throttle body now the rpms are too high 07 tahoe. They are available for the following pontiac torrent years. Manual relearn you can also manually trigger a relearning procedure. Press the accelerator pedal to the floor and count for 10 seconds and then release the pedal for 10 seconds. To perform a throttle relearn on a 2008 silverado 5. Dec 11, 2016 how to do ecmpcm idle learn procedure showing how to do the idle learn procedure if you have any questions feel free to ask. Nissan idle relearn procedure how to perform a nissan idle relearn. The idle may be unstable or a dtc may set if the throttle position is not learned. Conditions for running the idle learn procedure idle learn.
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